Thread: xPopup suggestions
Wed Aug 11 2004, 11:25PM
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@Cerbie: which method of scrolling are you talking about, that causes it to scroll the 'lowest open popup'? because with the mousewheel, I thought that was the point! Give an example.
Very great new version! The keyboard navigation is working great. The Info prefix is very useful, too!
Small bug: a quicklaunch popup seems to disappear immediately after calling it by bang, unless you quickly move your mouse to select something. This happens only when borders are bigger than 0.
Also, is it just me, or is the folder arrow not shown untill the folder is selected?
Two more suggestions involving keyboard navigation:
-If there is more than one entry that starts with a letter, if that letter is pressed selection should toggle between them. For example, you have multiple things starting with P, and you want to get to the third item, so press p,p,p.
-Another similar idea, "chording", involves multiple entries starting with the same letter. So you have many entries starting with P, and you want to get to Programs... press p, then quickly press r. You can see this work in most file managers.
--Note that the previous suggestion (p,p,p) takes precedence over this chording!
Thread: xPopup suggestions
Sun Aug 15 2004, 04:20AM
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example: I move the cursor down, open Programs, go into Programs, and go to the bottom, scroll the wheel...instead of scrolling the Programs menu, it scrolls through the items in the Thunderbird subfolder.
Autobreak helps, though .
New issue: piping directories, it takes one, not the other, instead of merging the items. F:, if I open the main startup folder (All Users) first, when I hover to my startup, it displays the All Users version, and even displays it up by that one. I imagine this will get fixed, though, as it should only show one folder, but with combined contents.
...and I get a BSOD during a defrag (tip: NEVER install NVidia's IDE driver for PATA stuff), have to reformat and re-install, and by the time I'm back, there's a new version of xLabel to play with! I'll never get this theme done! [ Edited Sun Aug 15 2004, 04:21AM ]
Thread: xPopup suggestions
Sun Aug 15 2004, 07:53AM
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I see what you mean...
If you open the Programs folder, but move the mouse not at all and instead just use the mousewheel, it acts how you would expect. (Try it!)
But if you move the mouse to 'hover' over a folder entry inside Programs, that folder opens and the mousewheel only scrolls that open folder.
*Here's a suggestion; don't know if it's possible, but if so it might solve this quite well -- if the mouse is 'merely hovering' over the folder entry, the mousewheel (AND keyboard arrow keys and PgUp/PgDn) should scroll the main folder (programs, in our example). However, if the mouse is moved 'into' the opened hovered folder (thunderbird, in your example) OR the hovered folder entry is clicked on (or pressed Enter or Space), then the mousewheel should scroll in there. does that make sense? Think about this, let me know if I missed something...
Thread: xPopup suggestions
Sun Aug 15 2004, 06:36PM
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Technicality in 0.8:
"TaskFolders work as in Popup2..."
!PopupTasks only works as a folder within a popup, where with popup2, it works as that or as its own popup.
Thread: xPopup suggestions
Thu Aug 19 2004, 09:35AM
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True. that is the way some of us mostly use PopupTasks, isn't it Hope they can get TaskFolders and ShellFolders working as standalone bangs...
Ok, one last stab at the mousewheel scrolling / keyboard navigation situation:
The way it works now is almost perfect! One thing that would make it even better would be if a left-click on a folder entry behaved the same as pushing Enter on a folder entry. That is, it moves the mouse into the newly opened folder so that mousewheel and arrowkeys scroll within that new folder. Get it?
Thread: xPopup suggestions
Wed Aug 25 2004, 04:54AM
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Another feature request: allow the updating of evars in popup entries. For example, I'm putting the current values of variables in a popup menu,
*Popup "Desks Across ($vwmDesksX$)" Folder
and let's just say that with folder caching enabled, it isn't !reloadmodule-friendly . I highly recommend folder caching, and regular HD defragging along with it. Now what was a ~5 second wait is ~2 seconds.
I like 0.9 so far...all but one issue is fixed, and it isn't a show-stopper (see other thread), and !popuptasks w/ the normal context menu--I thought I was liking xTaskbar, and then you do this, making it obsolete again . [ Edited Wed Aug 25 2004, 04:58AM ]
Thread: xPopup suggestions
Wed Aug 25 2004, 05:59AM
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...what about allowing a space between the entry itself and the folder arrows? Getting the arrow image to go into the entry works, but not away from it, to the right (negative arrow offsets don't work).
As soon as 1.0 comes, popup2 will have to go the way of LsBox and Geekamp.
Thread: xPopup suggestions
Thu Aug 26 2004, 12:25AM
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...and Label, and Shortcut2/3 and Layercut... and...
Such a nice new version! so many cool new things to play with. Agreed, piping folders showing considerable improvement.
And SO close to the ideal mouse/keyboard navigation! But augh, while the new 'left-click navigates into folders' feature is great it needs one small tweak: when it navigates into the folder it should not open an additional subfolder (the one it 'lands on')! Make it act just like how the Right arrow key navigates into a folder.
This sort of thing also happens sometimes on a page change, whether using PgUp/PgDn or just Up/Down. In my opinion when one of those keys is pressed the entry the mouse 'lands on' should not open.
Don't give up on this particular problem Andymon, you're so close!
